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"We can't allow things that are inaccurate to stand." — The Word of Our Dan, February 19, 2008.

Thursday, September 21, 2006

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If anyone had ever bothered to check, they would find that Hydro-Québec's Romaine hydro project, as planned, would not flood any territory in Labrador.

Will it have upstream environmental impact in Labrador? Almost certainly.

But does it change the border?

Certainly not.

Does Quebec's map funny business change the border?

Certainly not.

Read Term 2. Then read s. 3 of the British North America Act, 1871. Finally, read s. 43 of the Constitution Act, 1982.

6 Comments:

At 12:18 PM, September 21, 2006 , Blogger stephen said...

Isn't Quebec's argument that they have disputed the current boundary, based on the 1927 Privy Council decision that Newfoundland held dominion to the "height of land" draining into the Atlantic? I don't know the details of the decision as to how it follow a line of Latitude on the southern border. I'm curious as to how this was decided.

 
At 3:31 PM, September 21, 2006 , Blogger WJM said...

Isn't Quebec's argument that they have disputed the current boundary, based on the 1927 Privy Council decision that Newfoundland held dominion to the "height of land" draining into the Atlantic?

It might be, but it's demonstrably false. Quebec's own Dorion Commission disproved this over thirty years ago.

I don't know the details of the decision as to how it follow a line of Latitude on the southern border. I'm curious as to how this was decided.

Read the decision.

 
At 10:32 PM, September 22, 2006 , Blogger stephen said...

I've been doing some more reading on this story and it appears they are planning to dam FIVE rivers, not just the Romaine. It appears the Romaine is the first to go forward for various reasons including the fact that, yes, it won't flood any part of Labrador. What about the other four rivers they are planning?

 
At 10:52 PM, September 22, 2006 , Blogger WJM said...

I've been doing some more reading on this story and it appears they are planning to dam FIVE rivers, not just the Romaine.

Eventually, they could dam the Romaine, St. Augustine, St. Pauls and Mecatina, which are four of the five major boundary-crossers. The other is the Natashquan, which is protected along a good chunk of its course.

The Romaine is the only project at any advanced stage of planning, and Mecatina might -- emphasis the might -- get to that stage in the next decade. I wouldn't expect to see much, if anything, happening on the St. Augustine or St. Paul's in my lifetime.

It appears the Romaine is the first to go forward for various reasons including the fact that, yes, it won't flood any part of Labrador. What about the other four rivers they are planning?

They would only flood a part of Labrador IF the province of which Labrador is a part lets them, and IF that's a feature of the development.

As with the Romaine, there are options for development which would have involved spanning the border. Even if Hydro-Quebec goes with all four phases of the Romaine project, thought, the design they have chosen for Romaine-4 means no flooding north of 52.

The only recent, serious, border-spanning proposal was the 1998, two-province one which would have involved diverting water from the Romaine watershed into the Grand River (so-called "Churchill") one.

 
At 7:05 AM, September 23, 2006 , Blogger Brian said...

This is starting to rival the “thrillah in Manilarh” and I’m love’n it.

 
At 2:51 PM, September 23, 2006 , Blogger WJM said...

The central canadien powers that be (Ontario and Quebec) never acknowledged the 1927 decision.

Ontario, I'm not surprised about. I'd be very surprised if they did, given that the boundary doesn't touch or in any way involve Ontario.

Quebec, on the other hand, has recognized the 1927 boundary on many, many, many occasions in its laws. The Dorion Commission back in the 1970s completely and utterly debunked the idea that Quebec "has never recognized" the Labrador boundary.

And it is not for Quebec, or for that matter pre-1949 Canada or Newfoundland, to "acknowledge" the decision. They are bound by it, whether they like the decision or not, whether they want to be bound by it or not. Again, that is the finding of the Quebec government's own Dorion Commission.

The federal government certainly has recognized the 1927 boundary, most importantly in the Terms of Union which it is bound by, but also in what must by now amount to hundreds of official and regulatory acts.

What do you base your statement on, that "central Canada" hasn't recognized or acknowledged or whatever the Labrador boundary?

The effect of this is that they consider Labrador to be theirs

Who is "they"? Be specific. Does Ontario think "they" own Labrador?

And if it's morally culpable to think you "own" Labrador, isn't it equally morally culpable for Newfoundlanders to think so?

you matter what the law says thus there will be no damage to the terrory of Newfoundland and Labrador.

There won't be any direct flooding north of 52 from the Romaine project anyway, but feel free to continue to get tore up about very little, if not quite nothing.

No one loves a good myth, or a strawman enemy to hate, more than a Newfoundland nationalist.

 

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